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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Hobby Boss 44M TAS - Hungarian
robw_uk
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 12:04 AM UTC
I have this coming soon - wanted to build it as a what if and scratch building exercise. using references from other Hungarian/Axis tanks of the era but if anyone has any other references (kit review post mentions missing exhaust for example... any images?). additions i am thinking

1) schuerzen (Hungarian tanks used it as did German so why not) - may be full height (Pz IV-esque or just the half height like the Panther)
2) armour over rather weak rear deck - have seen some PE for the panther with a similar idea (may be even on the turret roof as well
3) rear mounted boxes (Panther)
4) potentially spare fuel tanks (Russian) but think that is a tad dangerous having them so exposed....
5) rear turret bussle (Kit has tools their so easy to relocate)

in terms of colour... green - olive? russian?

was toying with "what if the Hungarian Uprising of 1956 user them" but think that would be 10+ years after they were designed so a bit far fetched..... so "1946 WWII continues with Russia vs Hungary" type scenario

anyone done something similar? any other thoughts?
Bravo1102
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 12:25 AM UTC
Do it like the Bulgarian Panthers as the beginnings of a post war Hungarian army or as the Hungarian co-belligerent forces fighting Wehrmacht 1946. Green with a huge honking red star or the Hungarian tricolor.
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 12:35 AM UTC

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4) potentially spare fuel tanks (Russian) but think that is a tad dangerous having them so exposed....



Unlike the T-34, the TAS 44M was petrol powered. Probably not a good idea...


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in terms of colour... green - olive? russian?



Maybe a two-tone green/green or green/brown camo? All-green also sounds good...
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 12:38 AM UTC

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Do it like the Bulgarian Panthers as the beginnings of a post war Hungarian army or as the Hungarian co-belligerent forces fighting Wehrmacht 1946. Green with a huge honking red star or the Hungarian tricolor.



Good idea, I like it!

robw_uk
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 01:36 AM UTC
thanks both... just googled the bulgarian panther... very red star.... maybe green with the white cross marking.

and good call on the petrol tank - thats a no-no (there wasnt really a clean space to put one anyway).

any other thoughts of how the 44M may have developed in to a 1946 Hungarian army?
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 01:50 AM UTC

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any other thoughts of how the 44M may have developed in to a 1946 Hungarian army?



If we're talking about a pro-Soviet Hungarian army then:

- swapping out the original engines for a V2-34 unit used in T-34s (and adding external fuel tanks...?)
- adding turret-rails for riders
- adding commander-operated DshK MG
robw_uk
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 02:34 AM UTC

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any other thoughts of how the 44M may have developed in to a 1946 Hungarian army?



If we're talking about a pro-Soviet Hungarian army then:

- swapping out the original engines for a V2-34 unit used in T-34s (and adding external fuel tanks...?)
- adding turret-rails for riders
- adding commander-operated DshK MG



turret rails I have done elsewhere so that is fine...

the m/g - would that be:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/WTVXCYBWS/soviet-dshk-machine-gun-1-35-scale?optionId=63751740

and as for swapping the engine - I guess that may also alter the engine deck.... maybe an interesting idea (rather than just covering the engine louvres with raised plate armour)
TonyE78
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 04:11 AM UTC
If 1956 "What if" then the hungarian rebels had some really nice and colourfull looking markings:
http://www.star-decals.net/35-942.html
robw_uk
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 04:37 AM UTC

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If 1956 "What if" then the hungarian rebels had some really nice and colourfull looking markings:
http://www.star-decals.net/35-942.html



oohhhh yes... very nice.... i had the white (they say yellow or white) stripe as being part of it so these decals look useable