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Dragon M132
muddog500
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 02:25 AM UTC
Dragon USA online has this kit of the M-132 on sale for $24.00 U.S. I just bought one. They normally are about $60.00.
BunkerBuster
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 03:03 AM UTC
Dragon USA has been running fire sales for the last two months. I've picked up a couple new releases for below $30 and several older releases for under $20 from them. The M132 was very tempting, but I decided to order two T-34 kits (6584 and 6319) for under $20 each. Total was around $44 shipped for both kits. They will go onto the stack of ~15 dragon kits I've bought since Nov 1st.

As a side note, Sprue Brothers has the Meng Buk on special today for $44.99. With the 10% sale going right now, that makes it a great deal.
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 09:27 AM UTC
Thanks for the tip, Steve!!!!!!!!!!

Much Appreciated!!!

With Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 11:45 AM UTC
I bought the M132 as well. It looks to be a pretty good kit. Does anyone have pic of inside the turret though? It is lacking in this area.
m75
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 11:48 AM UTC
Johnny,

I just ordered one up also!
m4sherman
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 02:01 PM UTC
I had a look at the M132, but ended up getting some of the PZ III and Stug III's.
m75
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 05:31 AM UTC
Well, apparently Havoc and I received ours the same day, and we were sending thoughts back and forth. He noticed that the lower hull is not for the standard M113 application, which would include the M132.

It is for a longer vehicle (Israeli?) and the modeller must cut the lower hull upon an indicated line to shorten it to the regular M113 length.

Really? All of the work that goes into molding the flame thrower apparatus, storage tanks, even the piping, and they can't afford to use a lower hull that represents 98% of that carrier's production run?

Hell, now I'm tempted to shift the M132 stuff over onto a Tamiya ACAV lit that has been waiting its turn to be built.

Kevlar06
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 08:16 AM UTC
Another nail in Dragon's coffin as far as I'm concerned. Is it any wonder why the big price slash? I've seen these for as high as $60, and was tempted since I've had some professional experience with flame throwers, but now that I know they are re-treading an old kits into a new one, I won't bother. I'm trying to be positive about Dragon, I'd really like to see them turn around, but almost everything they are releasing lately comes with a high price point and some sort of compromise in detail. Having to shorten an M113 hull? Really? Did they say that anywhere on the box or was it a "surprise" in the instructions?
VR, Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 08:28 AM UTC
I don't follow all of the M113 kits that closely, (much less by Dragon) so am unaware of which kit requires a longer hull. How much longer is it? If it's enough to accommodate another bogie, I'll happily trade you for it.
m75
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 10:56 AM UTC
I already did the surgery, but the cut-off portion is about 18mm. Not really enough for an extra road wheel station. It also removes the idler mount, so Dragon includes two replacement that are to be cemented to the modified hull.
jps
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 11:39 AM UTC
I believe the hull is from the lance missle system kit if not from something even older. Kinda cheesy to have to cut to build a M113.
Petition2God
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 03:56 PM UTC
If you received your orders from Dragon USA Online, when did you order kits and when did you receive them? I ordered something on 12/24; never received a separate FedEx tracking number; never heard back from them on an email inquiry on 12/28; and have not received anything as of 1/2/19.
Did they just burn me or what?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 03:58 PM UTC
Extensive sales going on right now with Dragon's online store. Is Dragon no longer the go to brand it was 10 years ago?
sherb
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 04:19 PM UTC

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If you received your orders from Dragon USA Online, when did you order kits and when did you receive them? I ordered something on 12/24; never received a separate FedEx tracking number; never heard back from them on an email inquiry on 12/28; and have not received anything as of 1/2/19.
Did they just burn me or what?



I'm in the same boat, ordered one on the 23rd, no FedEx number, no package.
BunkerBuster
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 04:58 PM UTC

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If you received your orders from Dragon USA Online, when did you order kits and when did you receive them? I ordered something on 12/24; never received a separate FedEx tracking number; never heard back from them on an email inquiry on 12/28; and have not received anything as of 1/2/19.
Did they just burn me or what?



I ordered two T-34 kits on 12/23/18. Received Fedex tracking number on 12/27/18. Scheduled delivery is 1/4/19. They were running some extreme fire sales on kits and I'm guessing they got slammed with orders right before xmas. I've ordered from them about 15 times and have never been burned. They have good service and are usually a little faster to ship.
Petition2God
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 05:43 PM UTC

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Extensive sales going on right now with Dragon's online store. Is Dragon no longer the go to brand it was 10 years ago?


Sounds like you're new to this forum. Right, Dragon has lost its edge. New comers, Meng, Takom, and RFM, are cranking out some awesome stuff. Even the old timers, big T, Academy, Bronco, and AFV Club are improving. Dragon's latest releases in recent years have been unimpressive and disappointing in my opinion.
Petition2God
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 05:45 PM UTC
OK, thanks for sharing, Sherb and Ken. It's a relief that I'm not the only one waiting.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 03:00 AM UTC
I ordered on 12/24 and just got a reply and shipping number. My package is almost here. Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient. Wayne
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 04:52 AM UTC

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Sounds like you're new to this forum. Right, Dragon has lost its edge. New comers, Meng, Takom, and RFM, are cranking out some awesome stuff. Even the old timers, big T, Academy, Bronco, and AFV Club are improving. Dragon's latest releases in recent years have been unimpressive and disappointing in my opinion.



Yeah I'm back after probably 8-9 years of not doing much. I couldn't remember my old account. More than anything I'm surprised at the price of kits. I picked up the Takom Panther A with interior at a steal. Blows my mind Dragon and Tamiya are selling just exterior kits at the same price. No more magic tracks with dragon either? Not too surprising about Dragon though, how many times can you rehash the same WWII subjects and expect people to get excited
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:17 AM UTC

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If you received your orders from Dragon USA Online, when did you order kits and when did you receive them? I ordered something on 12/24; never received a separate FedEx tracking number; never heard back from them on an email inquiry on 12/28; and have not received anything as of 1/2/19.
Did they just burn me or what?



It's What.

I've ordered three times in the last month on these sales they've been having, two have been received. Despite statements from them, I didn't receive any tracking numbers from Fedex either. I emailed DUO on the first one and they sent me a number. Fedex was so far off on the projected delivery (it came three days *before* they said it would) that I didn't bother getting a number for the other two. I have full confidence that the package will arrive.

KL
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:36 AM UTC

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Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient.



It probably is very efficient. If there was a cheaper way to deliver the package within the time constraints, you can be assured that Fedex would have discovered it and would be using it.

KL
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:45 AM UTC

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Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient.



It probably is very efficient. If there was a cheaper way to deliver the package within the time constraints, you can be assured that Fedex would have discovered it and would be using it.

KL



As long as they don't send it into orbit
m75
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 07:08 AM UTC
Johnny B (Havoc on the site) and I orders the same day, I believe 23 Dec, and both received on the same day as well. I did not get a FedEx tracking number, and was about to shoot off an email to Dragon (located about 40 miles from me) when the postman dropped the box off. Overall a very short delivery time, and considering it was in the middle of Xmas, pretty well done.

Too bad the kit has it's issues as described above.

BTW, although the interior features the four fuel tanks and holding frame, the TC turret has no interior at all, no flame gun or M73 breaches, vision blocks, nada...... Since the cargo hatch can be left open, as well as the ramp and separate ramp troop door, seems that another potential opportunity for detail was missed.

The M132 on outside display at Ft Leonard Wood is closed up, but the troop rear door has been replaced with plexiglas, allowing folks to view the interior. Maybe build this kit as a representation of the FLW display?
sherb
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 08:45 AM UTC

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The M132 on outside display at Ft Leonard Wood is closed up, but the troop rear door has been replaced with plexiglas, allowing folks to view the interior. Maybe build this kit as a representation of the FLW display?



Actually, the decals in scheme #1 on the instructions are taken from the M132 at Ft. Leonard Wood.

Scheme #3 is from the M132 on display at the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City.

I haven't found scheme #2...yet.... Gotta do something until the kit arrives, right?
Petition2God
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 09:01 AM UTC

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Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient.



It probably is very efficient. If there was a cheaper way to deliver the package within the time constraints, you can be assured that Fedex would have discovered it and would be using it.

KL



As long as they don't send it into orbit



Ha! They may have sent it outside of the country. This sarcasm is too obvious. "Very efficient" like the US Federal Government. Granted I am spoiled by Amazon Prime 2 day shipping and Lots of Models' free priority shipping...
No show today and no email response from Dragon USA Online yet. At least tell me it's delayed instead of silent treatment for 11 days...