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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 12:30 PM UTC
The more I look at it, the more I figure I'm gonna take the route others have suggested - take the parts I need and put them in another M113 hull. Glad I got it when it was on sale...
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 10:54 AM UTC
http://armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=200045&page=1&ord=0
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 09:23 AM UTC
Here's the page where the small turret picture came from...

http://15thengineer.50megs.com/flame_apcs.htm

H.P.
m75
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 05:25 AM UTC
Well, I found it unusual to follow the instructions telling you to remove the molded-on engine cover strut from the roof, and replace it with a separate part that look the same.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 12:31 PM UTC
I just opened mine, too. They forgot the exhaust in the instructions... and by the looks of the sprue map I don't see one aside from the Israeli extended version. Or am I missing something?
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Posted: Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 11:36 AM UTC
So, I just got the kit and from what I can see I will be using the interior parts and putting them in one of my other M113s. For the sale price I can do that. Anyone needing the long tub and other parts let me know. Wayne
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Posted: Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 05:18 AM UTC
Yes, those are the same style of headlight brush guards that are on the FLW M132 museum piece.
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Posted: Saturday, January 05, 2019 - 12:55 AM UTC

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The headlight guards are of a thinner design, with a stabilizing top bar as part of each assembly (actual M132), one on right side, two on left.



I guess this is an early M113 model feature.

1965 Veterans Day parade on Monroe Street in Tallahassee, Florida :



H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:00 PM UTC

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We're in this together James, keep the faith!



thumbs up! Thanks.
m75
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 01:54 PM UTC
Sherb, I opened up my FLW images (taken just in December at FLW), and yes indeed, same registration number on the hull as on the box art.

Also with no trim vane mounted or control linkage, like the kit and directions. The shorter rubber skirts didn't make it into the kit tho.

No DS gun mantlet cover. The headlight guards are of a thinner design, with a stabilizing top bar as part of each assembly (actual M132), one on right side, two on left.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 11:14 AM UTC
Yup, thanks. There are a few pics at the second link, just have to click on the pictures icon.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 11:12 AM UTC
Any better now?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 11:10 AM UTC
No joy. 1st one goes to a blank page. Second goes to a ad for the CD, but no pics.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 11:07 AM UTC

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I found some neat pics of a totally tricked out M132 so I'm kinda excited to get started on this one.



Can you share the pics? I too noticed the interior omissions and have been unsuccessfully looking for some good interior pics. I found the control panel and some hose/wire routing diagrams, but none of the turret interior.

Just a visit from FEDEX a few minutes ago. Ordered on 24 Dec, arrived today.



Letís see if I can do this from my phone... the photos are covered in water marks, youíll have to scroll around on the link. Itís Basically an M132 with belly armor, extended drivers controls, a mounted M60 with ACAV shield and .50 cal. There are a couple other photos on the eBay listing for the cd. One may be an M132 with the floats. Iím debating buying the cd.


https://m.throughtheireyes2.co.uk/VIETNAM-WAR-PHOTO-ALBUM.html
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 10:57 AM UTC

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It's the "best" I've found so far...



H.P.



It's a start.

Just had a visit from FEDEX a few minutes ago. Ordered on 24 Dec, arrived today.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 10:32 AM UTC
No, I didn't try mixing the parts. I had already decided to make the best of the Dragon kit in an out-of-the-box category entry, and have gone about 70% on the kit work.

It would be nice to see shapeways or similar devise the interior details of an M132, so that they could be used with a more accurate base M113 kit such as Academy or AFV Club. I purchased a drivers station for the M110 gun and think the M132 couldn't be too much more difficult, just more pieces.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 10:31 AM UTC
It's the "best" I've found so far...



H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 10:07 AM UTC

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I found some neat pics of a totally tricked out M132 so I'm kinda excited to get started on this one.



Can you share the pics? I too noticed the interior omissions and have been unsuccessfully looking for some good interior pics. I found the control panel and some hose/wire routing diagrams, but none of the turret interior.

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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 09:13 AM UTC

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No show today and no email response from Dragon USA Online yet. At least tell me it's delayed instead of silent treatment for 11 days...



I've ordered about a half dozen+ times from Dragon and when they needed to cancel an item in an order they did it pretty quickly. I think I've also gotten the FedEx notices from them within a day of the packages arrival. However, I've never received any email responses from them. I'm still hopeful mine will show up any day now.

We're in this together James, keep the faith!
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 09:05 AM UTC

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Too bad the kit has it's issues as described above.

BTW, although the interior features the four fuel tanks and holding frame, the TC turret has no interior at all, no flame gun or M73 breaches, vision blocks, nada...... Since the cargo hatch can be left open, as well as the ramp and separate ramp troop door, seems that another potential opportunity for detail was missed.



While I wait for mine to arrive I've been studying the kit instructions and parts photos and reading comments. Really disappointing. I noticed the trim vane is also missing. While the marking schemes for two versions are museum pieces that lack the trim vane I'm sure the omission was a sloppy carry over from the IDF M113....like the IDF cans.

There is also supposed to be some type of control panel which looks to be missing as well. When looking inside from the rear, It should be in front and to the right of the tanks.

Jim, have you, or Johnny B. (hey, what's up, long time no talk) tried fitting the interior parts/turret into/onto any of the other M113 kits on the market? I've got a bunch of M113s from Tamiya, Academy and AFV Club that I can use as a more detailed donor.

I found some neat pics of a totally tricked out M132 so I'm kinda excited to get started on this one.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 09:01 AM UTC

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Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient.



It probably is very efficient. If there was a cheaper way to deliver the package within the time constraints, you can be assured that Fedex would have discovered it and would be using it.

KL



As long as they don't send it into orbit



Ha! They may have sent it outside of the country. This sarcasm is too obvious. "Very efficient" like the US Federal Government. Granted I am spoiled by Amazon Prime 2 day shipping and Lots of Models' free priority shipping...
No show today and no email response from Dragon USA Online yet. At least tell me it's delayed instead of silent treatment for 11 days...
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 08:45 AM UTC

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The M132 on outside display at Ft Leonard Wood is closed up, but the troop rear door has been replaced with plexiglas, allowing folks to view the interior. Maybe build this kit as a representation of the FLW display?



Actually, the decals in scheme #1 on the instructions are taken from the M132 at Ft. Leonard Wood.

Scheme #3 is from the M132 on display at the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City.

I haven't found scheme #2...yet.... Gotta do something until the kit arrives, right?
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 07:08 AM UTC
Johnny B (Havoc on the site) and I orders the same day, I believe 23 Dec, and both received on the same day as well. I did not get a FedEx tracking number, and was about to shoot off an email to Dragon (located about 40 miles from me) when the postman dropped the box off. Overall a very short delivery time, and considering it was in the middle of Xmas, pretty well done.

Too bad the kit has it's issues as described above.

BTW, although the interior features the four fuel tanks and holding frame, the TC turret has no interior at all, no flame gun or M73 breaches, vision blocks, nada...... Since the cargo hatch can be left open, as well as the ramp and separate ramp troop door, seems that another potential opportunity for detail was missed.

The M132 on outside display at Ft Leonard Wood is closed up, but the troop rear door has been replaced with plexiglas, allowing folks to view the interior. Maybe build this kit as a representation of the FLW display?
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:45 AM UTC

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Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient.



It probably is very efficient. If there was a cheaper way to deliver the package within the time constraints, you can be assured that Fedex would have discovered it and would be using it.

KL



As long as they don't send it into orbit
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:36 AM UTC

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Fedex shipped past me to the other side of the state and is now coming back. Very effecient.



It probably is very efficient. If there was a cheaper way to deliver the package within the time constraints, you can be assured that Fedex would have discovered it and would be using it.

KL