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17 lb AT gun
Biggles2
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 02:40 AM UTC
In the case of the British 17 lb AT gun, did the breech automatically open and eject the empty shell casing after firing, or did the gunner have to manually open the breech to reload? I notice in drill position there are only two men directly behind the shield - the gunner and the loader; everyone else is either handling ammo or supervising.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 03:01 AM UTC
Looks like a auto eject. If this right gun you are talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosCsRbAADg

I see them opening the breach, and the spent casing being ejected.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 03:47 AM UTC
Definitely No!
In the footage at 2min46 you can see after firing the loader was opening manually.
Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 05:37 AM UTC
Looks like I'll need another guy at the breech. Thanks.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 11:12 PM UTC
The Gun in the Pathe clip is a Pheasant, a 17pdr on a 25pdr carriage, an expedient measure deployed first in Tunisia...

It has an auto-close breech, (as does the 6pdr & 25pdr, btw), manually open breech, insert shell, (with closed fist to preserve fingertips), & it auto closes.
Manually opening the breech auto-ejects the shell.
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 03:16 AM UTC

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The Gun in the Pathe clip is a Pheasant, a 17pdr on a 25pdr carriage, an expedient measure deployed first in Tunisia...


The carriage is irrelevant as it was the operation of the gun/breech that I was questioning - the guns themselves all operated the same.
That video was all I needed.