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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 01:57 AM UTC
On a side note, it looks like the trailer you've found is designed to transport a standard ISO sized containerized kitchen...It has a limited payload capacity (only 15,000 lb = 6804 kg).

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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 02:03 AM UTC
I saw that it was for a kitchen container too. My only point was thet they were still recently in use, so they probably were in the past as well.
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 05:06 AM UTC

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I have NO idea what that device in front of the container might be.


I'm going to suggest that it is verifying that the various electrical elements of the generator and refer unit are not emitting radio interference. Unshielded electromagnetic machinery (i.e. motors and generators) can emit broad band radio signals that interfere with commmincations equipment, like how your microwave can interfere with Bluetooth signals. Part of the specification for the equipment would be for the whole rig to be shielded and this is the sort of set-up that would verify that the shielding is acceptable.

Just a guess.

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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 05:10 AM UTC
Gino - it is somewhat comic in that I discovered those two "Army Surplus" images online at just about the same instant you posted them!

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And another image again of a civilian trailer. (I take it that it is far more common to see these shorty trailers in the 22' to 28' lengths rather than super short at only 20')

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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 05:27 AM UTC
That one manual speaks of a trailer intended to be towed off the pintle of a heavy prime mover rather than by the fifth wheel of a semi-tractor. Not exactly the same thing. (Maybe I am splitting hairs here?)
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 02:20 AM UTC
More photos based on that theme the trouble maker Frenchy
started earlier:





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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2019 - 08:28 AM UTC
Michael,
Don't know if you thought of this or if it would help, but several companies, including Athearn, make HO scale chassis for 20', 40' and 45' containers. I know they are 1/87 scale but you might be able to get measurements from them.
Always a pleasure to see your latest work!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 12:27 AM UTC
Thanks John - good thought.

Of course the 8' x 20' container footprint is a given and the overall length of the trailer is known so I don't think the general dimensions will be too hard to determine.

And again, those CAD drawings provided by DMTC of their 1/24 scale model I think provide just about all the detailing information one might need to build a scratch model.

My question would be, what modern day military vehicle in 1/35th would provide the closest match for the wheel sets and at least some suspension parts? Any of the new AFV Club offerings fit that bill?

I would hate to have to chop-up (and to pay for) that monster M915 flatbed trailer from Trumpeter just to get the necessary wheels and suspension.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 03:58 AM UTC
Michael,
Don't know how accurate they are but Revell makes/made 1/32 scale semi-trailers. Maybe with 1/35 wheels, the scale difference would not be too bad in respect to the axles and suspension. Just a thought.
John
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 04:07 AM UTC
Did not know that. Thanks
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 04:55 AM UTC
I was about to suggest the M872 trailer but then I read that you would hate to chop it up (and pay for it).
Trumpeter have announced the AN-TPY radar trailer as a separate kit (no M983) but that will not be a cheap little kit either ...

Have you checked if there are any resin wheels for those kits?

Maybe you could get the wheels and suspension parts from Miniman Factory?
http://www.minimanfactory.com/en/m872-flatbed-trailer-i14/

Close-ups of the parts:
https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/minimanfactory/mmf35002.html

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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 07:30 AM UTC
Try Trumpeter spare-parts service?
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 07:34 AM UTC

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Michael,
Don't know how accurate they are but Revell makes/made 1/32 scale semi-trailers. Maybe with 1/35 wheels, the scale difference would not be too bad in respect to the axles and suspension. Just a thought.
John



Revell kits are ancient Snap-fit kits. Does not look too convincing.

https://stage.revell.de/fileadmin/import/images/bau/07453_%23BAU_AC_DC_TOUR_TRUCK_ROCK_OR_BUST_V01_01.LOW.PDF
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 07:44 AM UTC
How about the bogies off the Tamiya Deuce and a Half? I got a fair amount of those in my spares box. However, I suspect the WWII tire size would be too small????

Any thoughts on that? I know there is someone on here that really has a lot of data on proper tire sizes.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 10:52 AM UTC
Progress last night:

Got all the sub-assemblies installed. (Still have the gas tank and the temperature recorder to complete.) Built the scratch ladder but still have the right hand folding ladder to complete.



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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 12:37 PM UTC
Very nice. Looking good.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 11:58 PM UTC
Superb!!!
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 03:17 AM UTC
I may just go with weathering the current color shown here but any thoughts/suggestions?