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Tamiya M113
Dannyd
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 07:25 PM UTC
Not posted on here for a while so I thought it best to pop up one of my recent builds, this is kit that has been worked on.

P1070350 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070361 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070364 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070624 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070745 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070834 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070912 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070868 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070889 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr


P1070910 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070924 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070920 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070918 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070919 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

Lots of errors but a whole heap of fun to build.
More pictures later.

Dan

Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 08:01 PM UTC
Very nice, although you unnecessarily bothered with the engine painting, as it is a gasoline engine of the original M113, and by the time MERDC camouflage pattern was introduced they were all gone from service, replaced with diesel engined variants, like M113A1
Dannyd
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 08:10 PM UTC
Yep, I knew that so I just used it as practice for painting and weathering. Will come in handy for other projects. Engine won’t be seen again.
Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 08:42 PM UTC

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Yep, I knew that so I just used it as practice for painting and weathering. Will come in handy for other projects. Engine won’t be seen again.


Cool, great!

Just one question though - why is 2nd Infantry Division commander in a 1st Armored Division track? Any story behind that?
Dannyd
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Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 08:59 PM UTC
Temporary attachment
salt6
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 04:12 AM UTC
Never say never, 1974 2AD 1/50 INF we still had one gasser in the battalion.
DanEgan
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 04:27 AM UTC
May I ask what tracks you used? Thanks
marcb
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 05:50 AM UTC
That looks really good.
Nice work!
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 05:58 AM UTC
Classic case of "making a silk purse out of a sow's ear".
Good work on an old classic kit Danny ! The PE tie downs look like a fun way to spend an evening.
Thanks for sharing !
Kenaicop
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:06 AM UTC
Very nice, can I ask where the interior stenciling came from?
Dannyd
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:22 AM UTC
Cheers Guys,

Tracks are from Model Kasten and are really great, stencils are from Archer and again a great bit of kit. The Tie downs were to say the least a real challenge, took a couple of days on and off, this was my lockdown build.

P1060818 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr


P1060821 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1060823 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1060848 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

The woodland camo for the figures was done using decals from Crossdelta, again the stock Tamiya figures from the kit modified.
Hornet Resin heads used.

IMG_3300 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070475 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070524 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070526 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070480 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

Cheers Guys
Spearhead01
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:35 AM UTC
Impressive work! I really like it!
ryally
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:50 AM UTC
Love this, it was I think my first kit I ever built. Looking at yours I want to build it again. What colours did you use on the M113 I want to steal them
Thanks for posting pics of all the add-ons very helpful
UpperCanadian
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:52 AM UTC
Fantastic work. I hope to be at that skill level one day.
Dannyd
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 07:05 AM UTC
So the colours used were Hataka orange line lacquer paint set for MERDC. I’m a big fan of MRP lacquers and thought these would behave the same, they are good but not as good as MRP. I suffered from tip dry but overcame it with the Tamiya lacquer retarder.

The build was a nostalgic build, I too built it as a kid back in the early eighties and wanted to have another crack at it. I could of bought the Academy kit which is more accurate or paid a boat load of cash for the AFV Club kit but that wouldn’t of given the same enjoyment. Hence the petrol engine and other inaccuracies that I overlooked. This was a trip down memory lane for me.

P1070560 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

Regards

Dan
ryally
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 07:13 AM UTC
Thanks Dan, was hoping for some strange reason that you used Tamiya paints. Love the paint job looks awesome to me.
Dannyd
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 07:24 AM UTC

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Thanks Dan, was hoping for some strange reason that you used Tamiya paints. Love the paint job looks awesome to me.



No problem Peter, I too am hoping for Tamiya to release a MERDC set, it would be nice to see it in the Lacquer range or the Acrylic. The lacquers spray beautifully, better than the acrylic range and dry in an instant. I’ll take either though.

Dan


Dannyd
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 08:36 AM UTC
A few more pictures of the build, some of the bits up close and in detail.

P1070344 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070345 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070363 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070897 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070899 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr

P1070915 by Dan Daddow, on Flickr



Enjoy

Dan
m75
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 08:37 AM UTC
Pawel, I cannot speak to all of the M113 series wearing MERDC and having only one type of engine, but from 1973 to 1978, my battalion at Ft Hood had M106 4.2 inch mortar carriers in the Combat Support Company; the entire section ran gasoline-powered engines.
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 08:54 AM UTC
Hi. dan,

It is absolutely fantastic! Whichever photo I look at, I find impressive works. Really great, congrats!

Tamás
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 04:31 PM UTC

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Very nice, although you unnecessarily bothered with the engine painting, as it is a gasoline engine of the original M113, and by the time MERDC camouflage pattern was introduced they were all gone from service, replaced with diesel engined variants, like M113A1



a few things of note:
1. Looking at the power pack, you know right away that it is a very early M113. The gas engine doesn't always mean a lot, but the gear box seriously dates it to an early time frame. The next one looks like a Turbo 400 on steriods.

2. yes there were a very few in Vietnam that were gasoline powered, but all used the mid gear box (there were three different gear boxes used, and none look similar)

3. looking at the output drive shafts, you will see an added gear box. That was known as the "water steer gear box". These were removed before shipping to Vietnam, and only seen stateside and maybe Europe. My guess is that Europe still used them, even though they really needed them in RVN.

Seafoam green didn't come around till they installed the Detroit engine. Yet it could have been a repaint of course. The gear box could have been a semi gloss O.D. or gloss white. We shipped them in both colors. I think the color variation was from the GAO verses OEM buyers. Later gear boxes were bare aluminum with O.D. engines but have seen Detroit blue and Chrysler blue as well.
gary
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:19 PM UTC
Beautiful work! Well done on this build.

I love the woodland camo BDUs. How do you get that decal to fit so well?
Dannyd
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 06:35 PM UTC

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Beautiful work! Well done on this build.

I love the woodland camo BDUs. How do you get that decal to fit so well?



They were fun but the secret was Daco Red (strong) decal solution, I tried several different solutions and they didn’t touch them. Careful cutting of the decals goes a long way to helping get a good finish.

HTH
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 08:13 PM UTC

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Beautiful work! Well done on this build.

I love the woodland camo BDUs. How do you get that decal to fit so well?



They were fun but the secret was Daco Red (strong) decal solution, I tried several different solutions and they didn’t touch them. Careful cutting of the decals goes a long way to helping get a good finish.

HTH



Mircosol works too with Crossdelta decals..Already built 10 figures in that way
TopSmith
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Posted: Friday, August 14, 2020 - 02:19 AM UTC
The final product is fantastic. It well looks like an award winner. When I saw those figures I couldn't figure how you shrunk people down to 1/35th scale. I then saw where you used a camo decal for the uniforms. I haven't seen the decals for uniforms before but it has made a believer out of me. Nice work and thanks for sharing with us.