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WWII Gun sights in transport?
varanusk
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2020 - 10:18 PM UTC
I read somewhere that (German WWII) artillery sights were dismounted and stored while transporting the guns to avoid damaging them.

However, I have not been able to find a good image of how it looked and which part(s) were removed, as either the photos are blurry/dark there or the area is covered with a tarpaulin.

I am looking for the leFH18, but I guess other German guns would be similar.

Anyone can help? Thanks in advance!
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2020 - 11:13 PM UTC
Here's the Panoramic Telescope Rbl. F. 16 (Rundblickfernrohr 16 (Rbl. F. 16) ) used with the 10,5cm le FH 18 :

http://www.questmasters.us/sitebuilder/images/German_RblF_16_Optic_Sight_with_Box_001-827x520.jpg

http://www.questmasters.us/sitebuilder/images/German_RblF_16_Optic_Sight_with_Box_002-365x520.jpg

and here's a view of the sight mount :



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Posted: Monday, September 14, 2020 - 11:53 AM UTC
And where was the gunsight box kept during transit...strapped to the inside of the gunshield, or stowed in the towing vehicle?
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Posted: Monday, September 14, 2020 - 05:28 PM UTC
I'd vote for the latter, as I don't see any mounting brackets for the box on the shield...

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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 - 01:29 AM UTC
Look her for the complete gun sight in its transport box:
https://www.kpemig.de/Wehrmacht-Rundblickfernrohr-16-im-Behaelter-dieser-ueberlackiert-Klare-Optik
Doesn't look like something I would attach to the gun when it is shaken around during transport.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 - 01:53 AM UTC
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated!!

I wonder if the Zieleinrichtung 34 was also dismounted or kept in place...

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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 - 04:16 PM UTC




Wow! the panoramic telescope sure hasn't changed much.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 - 07:47 PM UTC
Piece of trivia: The RSO (RaupenSchlepper Ost) was, among other purposes, evaluated for towing the PaK-40.
it was deemed unsuitable since the jerking motions of the steering caused the gun to be jerked sideways which jerked the gun out of alignment. This made it necessary to zero the gun again after each "road trip".
Usually it is a case of mounting the sight on the gun/carriage, now the alignment/zeroing of the gun to the sight attachment point was all f-ed up.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 - 10:02 PM UTC
So they decided to put the PaK-40 ON the RSO rather than behind it



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Posted: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 - 10:19 PM UTC
Yep!
Getting the gun cradle closer to the rotation point reduced the swings a lot